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		<title>Taxes pay for stuff &#8211; part I</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 18:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>poorman</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Morton]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Taxes]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Tazewell County]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[So I received my property tax bill the other day. I always love getting the statement. It&#8217;s a great reminder that those dastardly taxes that conservative and Republicans like to complain about actually pay for &#8211; you know &#8211; stuff. &#8230; <a href="http://www.billpoorman.com/2011/05/13/taxes-pay-for-stuff-part-i/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I received my property tax bill the other day. I always love getting the statement. It&#8217;s a great reminder that those dastardly taxes that conservative and Republicans like to complain about actually pay for &#8211; you know &#8211; stuff.
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<div>I&#8217;m not going to post the bill itself. (I guess I&#8217;m still trying to hold the line against that whole &#8220;the Internet means no privacy&#8221; thing.) But here&#8217;s the breakdown of my Tazewell County and Morton property taxes:</div>
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<li>70% goes to the local public schools</li>
<li>6.7% goes to Illinois Central College</li>
<li>2.4% goes to the local library</li>
<li>4.4% goes to local parks</li>
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<div>So, more than three-quarters of my property taxes go to education. Gosh darn those kids (and young and older adults at ICC) and their schooling!</div>
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<div>Add in the library and parks, and fully 83.5% of my property tax bill goes to education and quality of life in Morton. Darn that quality of life!</div>
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<div>Two percent is specifically broken out for roads. I like roads. They help people get to places in cars and trucks, you know. Places like work, stores, customers, hospitals, etc.</div>
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<div>So that leaves just 14.5% of my property taxes going to &#8220;guv-mint&#8221;. Just 14.5%, covering all of <a href="http://www.tazewell.com/taz-quick_info.html">this</a>, including things like law enforcement, courts, and public health.</p>
<p>Putting this another way:</p>
<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DxoPY95P-9Y/Tc5izTuEZ_I/AAAAAAAAADY/1N4b0KiJQHA/s1600/property+taxes.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="302" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DxoPY95P-9Y/Tc5izTuEZ_I/AAAAAAAAADY/1N4b0KiJQHA/s400/property+taxes.jpg" width="400" /></a></div>
<p>Next up, state taxes.</div>
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		<title>An economy has a purpose</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>poorman</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Economics]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the American tradition, governments have a purpose – a reason or set of reasons that they exist at all. The Founding Fathers felt compelled to make this clear – first, in the Declaration of Independence: We hold these truths &#8230; <a href="http://www.billpoorman.com/2011/03/02/an-economy-has-a-purpose/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="MsoNoSpacing">In the American tradition, governments have a <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">purpose</i> – a reason or set of reasons that they exist at all. The Founding Fathers felt compelled to make this clear – first, in the <a href="http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transcript.html">Declaration of Independence</a>:</div>
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<div class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin-left: .5in;"><span class="apple-style-span">We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.&#8211;That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<div class="MsoNoSpacing">And then in the <a href="http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html">preamble of the Constitution</a>:<o:p></o:p></div>
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<div class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin-left: .5in;"><a href="" name="preamble"><span class="heading">We the People</span><span class="apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></a><span class="apple-style-span">of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<div class="MsoNoSpacing">Conservatives often argue that government has gone too far and strayed from its true and right purpose. They often use this argument as a justification for cutting government, especially human services, even in better economic times than we have now.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<div class="MsoNoSpacing">Liberals and progressives absolutely should fight the conservative vision of the purpose of government. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<div class="MsoNoSpacing">But we must not stop there.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<div class="MsoNoSpacing">We must make it clear that an <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">economy</i> has a purpose, too. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<div class="MsoNoSpacing">That purpose is to provide the people within that economy with the necessities of life. And to the degree to which a given economy is not delivering those necessities to its people, it must be deemed a failure.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<div class="MsoNoSpacing">We can argue about what those necessities are. At the lowest level they would have to include food, water, clothing, and shelter. These should be as fundamental to any economy as liberty and civil rights are to a democratic government.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Beyond those basics, some modern-day necessities of life could include education, health care, transportation and communication. Again, for an economy to be considered successful, it should provide these necessities to its people. If it doesn’t, it’s a failure, even if GDP is growing.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<div class="MsoNoSpacing">Both government and an economy have a purpose, but it’s important to remember that, in the democratic American tradition, a common singular purpose unifies both of these institutions – freedom. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<div class="MsoNoSpacing">As FDR reminded us during his 1944 <a href="http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=16518">State of the Union address</a> in which he introduced his Second Bill of Rights, “Necessitous men are not free men.” It’s just common sense that, in economic matters, the rich enjoy more freedom than the poor.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<div class="MsoNoSpacing">It is for us, as liberals and progressives, to fight for a world of true freedom, true liberty, by articulating the purposes not only of government, but the economy, as well.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span><span class="apple-style-span">Economies, like governments, exist to serve their citizens – not the other way around.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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		<title>Freedom is not a punchline</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 19:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>poorman</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Liberal economics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Liberalism]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Earlier I posted about what I see as the ineptitude of the Democrats and demanded that they stand for something and someone.&#160; I think it&#8217;s only fair that I spell out what I think that is. First, what they should &#8230; <a href="http://www.billpoorman.com/2010/11/03/freedom-is-not-a-punchline/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://billpoorman.blogspot.com/2010/11/we-have-democrats-to-thank-for-last.html">Earlier</a> I posted about what I see as the ineptitude of the Democrats and demanded that they stand for something and someone.&nbsp; I think it&#8217;s only fair that I spell out what I think that is.</p>
<p>First, what they should stand for.&nbsp; It&#8217;s simple.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Liberals stand for liberty.</p>
<p>Liberals, progressives, the left, Democrats, Greens &#8211; whatever you want to call them or however you want to group them &#8211; stand for individual liberty and freedom &#8211; the right of every human being to choose his or her own life, as free as possible from all forms of coercion.&nbsp; By the way, that includes the coercion of markets.&nbsp; Markets can be just as coercive as governments when a person doesn&#8217;t have the resources to provide for the essentials of life.&nbsp; As FDR said in <a href="http://www.austincc.edu/lpatrick/his2341/fdr36acceptancespeech.htm">1936</a>, &#8220;Necessitous men are not free men.&#8221;</p>
<p>Second, who should they stand for?&nbsp; Again, it&#8217;s simple.</p>
<p>Liberals stand for everybody, equally.&nbsp; Everyone has a right to life and liberty, not just the select or the fortunate, however that is determined.</p>
<p>Last night, the liberal-progressive social group I organize held an election-watching party. Rand Paul came on to declare victory in his race for the Senate, and he spoke of freedom.&nbsp; The entire crowd began making fun of him and, by extension, every Republican that has cried &#8220;freedom&#8221; to score political points.&nbsp;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid freedom and liberty have become punchlines to liberals and progressives.&nbsp; Instead of joking about it, we should be angry &#8211; angry that conservatives have stolen our signature belief from us.</p>
<p>We stand for liberty &#8211; true liberty.&nbsp; And it&#8217;s about time we started standing up for ourselves.</p>
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		<title>We have the Democrats to thank for last night</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 18:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>poorman</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I’ve been trying hard to restrain myself this morning, but I don’t seem to be able to, so here it comes.&#160; The only people to blame for the rout last night are the Democrats.&#160; I’m 41 years old, and for &#8230; <a href="http://www.billpoorman.com/2010/11/03/we-have-the-democrats-to-thank-for-last-night/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p> <![endif]-->  <br />I’ve been trying hard to restrain myself this morning, but I don’t seem to be able to, so here it comes.<span>&nbsp; </span>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;">The only people to blame for the rout last night are the Democrats.<span>&nbsp; </span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;">I’m 41 years old, and for my entire life, the Democrats have been on the run.<span>&nbsp; </span>Even during those times when they seemed to have success, it was always short-lived.<span>&nbsp; </span>And they are always playing on the Republican turf and using their language to talk about our problems.</div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;">So the Republicans were obstructionist and disingenuous.<span>&nbsp; </span>So what?<span>&nbsp; </span>That’s not new.<span>&nbsp; </span>It was to be expected.<span>&nbsp; </span>If you weren’t planning for it, then you’re not a competent political party.&nbsp; </div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;">And looking forward, we can only expect more of the same.<span>&nbsp; </span>They&#8217;re not going to give up a winning strategy when it&#8217;s working.&nbsp; Their agenda in the House will first be to ruin the Obama presidency – then help the rich – then whatever else is left.<span>&nbsp; </span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;">Republicans play power politics.<span>&nbsp; </span>Democrats talk nicely about policy, in Republican terms, and hope we can all get along.</div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;">I have friends who will tell me I’m being harsh and unreasonable.<span>&nbsp; </span>Harsh, perhaps, but what is unreasonable about demanding that a party stand up for what it believes in?<span>&nbsp; </span>No, this does not mean that you never compromise.<span>&nbsp; </span>That would be too Republican and certainly not liberal or civil.<span>&nbsp; </span>But it does mean that you clearly stand for something and for someone and stop compromising before you’ve even entered into the negotiations.<span>&nbsp; </span>And for crying out loud, take some time to think about how communicate it to the American people, in your own terms, so that they understand what they’re getting.</div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;">I have been baffled by the Democratic Party for decades now, and they never fail to deliver even more bafflement.</div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;">Sigh.<span>&nbsp; </span>Rant off.</div>
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		<title>Sympathy for libertarians – well, the left-wing kind, anyway</title>
		<link>http://www.billpoorman.com/2010/10/06/sympathy-for-libertarians-%e2%80%93-well-the-left-wing-kind-anyway/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 16:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>poorman</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Liberalism]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Liberaltarianism]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Libertarianism]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Sometimes you just have to get something off your chest.&#160; This is another one of those posts. I’m sympathetic to libertarians. During a meeting of the liberal/progressive social group I organize in Peoria, Ill., the owner of the place where &#8230; <a href="http://www.billpoorman.com/2010/10/06/sympathy-for-libertarians-%e2%80%93-well-the-left-wing-kind-anyway/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;">Sometimes you just have to get something off your chest.&nbsp; This is <a href="http://billpoorman.blogspot.com/2010/09/im-secular-humanist-and-liberal-and-i.html">another one</a> of those posts.</div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;">I’m sympathetic to libertarians.</div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;">During a meeting of the <a href="http://livingliberally.org/drinking/chapters/IL/peoria">liberal/progressive social group</a> I organize in Peoria, Ill., the owner of the place where we meet (the quite fine <a href="http://www.kellehersirishpub.com/">Kelleher’s</a>) introduced a guest of his the other week.<span>&nbsp; </span>This guest asked if we were libertarians, to which the whole group reacted with the equivalent of a “Pfft, hell, no!”<span>&nbsp; </span>A similar reaction occurred just last night when I made a mention of libertarians.</div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;">Now, I understand where everyone was coming from.<span>&nbsp; </span>But I’m going to argue that their reaction should be limited to – and was probably aimed at – the right-wing libertarians of the world, not the left-wing libertarians.</div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;">“Left-wing <i>whats</i>!” you cry.<span>&nbsp; </span>I know; I know.<span>&nbsp; </span>Let me explain.</div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;">You might have noticed at the top of this page that the subtitle of my blog is “Grinding the lens through which I see the world.”<span>&nbsp; </span>You might have wondered what I mean by that.<span>&nbsp; </span>I’ve explained before that the George W. Bush administration and its crony Congress radicalized me into becoming more involved in politics.<span>&nbsp; </span>However, it’s one thing to know that the Bushies were horrible for the country and the world.<span>&nbsp; </span>It’s quite another to know <i>why</i> you know that.<span>&nbsp; </span>So for the last few years I’ve been working to understand my own political beliefs and worldview.<span>&nbsp; </span>After all of that searching, I think the label left-wing libertarian fits best.<span>&nbsp; </span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;">Often people break all political issues into two categories – social issues and economic issues.<span>&nbsp; </span>Well, regarding social issues, right-wing libertarians match up quite well with typical liberals and progressives.<span>&nbsp; </span>They celebrate individual liberty.<span>&nbsp; </span>They hate state and social intervention into people’s private lives.<span>&nbsp; </span>They defend civil liberties and oppose the expansion of the Bush-Obama security state.<span>&nbsp; </span>They’re all for the freedom to love/marry whom you want.<span>&nbsp; </span>They’re for religious freedom.<span>&nbsp; </span>They hate the drug war.<span>&nbsp; </span>They hate militarism and imperialism.<span>&nbsp; </span>Okay, so far.<span>&nbsp; </span>I’d happily call myself a libertarian on these issues.</div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;">But when it comes to economic issues, right-wing libertarians and typical liberals and progressives – and me, as a left-wing libertarian – completely disagree.<span>&nbsp; </span>Broadly speaking, right-wing libertarians hate the welfare state (Medicare/Medicaid, Social Security, unemployment insurance) and regulation.<span>&nbsp; </span>Liberals/progressives/left-wing libertarians tend to support the welfare state and regulation.<span>&nbsp; </span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;">What’s the source of this disagreement?<span>&nbsp; </span>It boils down to different understandings of economic freedom.<span>&nbsp; </span>Right-wing libertarians only see economic freedom when autonomous individuals voluntarily interact in sink-or-swim markets, with little or no role for the state and – this is important – no regard for the market power of the individual actors.<span>&nbsp; </span>Liberals/progressives/left-wing libertarians, however, see <span>&nbsp;</span>economic freedom as being severely curtailed when the individual actors have wildly different levels of market power.<span>&nbsp; </span>Put more simply, liberals/progressives/left-wing libertarians think markets are fine, but markets suck if you’re broke.</div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;">To expand on this, there is a difference in moral outlook here, too.<span>&nbsp; </span>Right-wing libertarians say the world is right and just because markets deliver to you exactly what you deserve.<span>&nbsp; </span>If you’re willing to work hard and play by the rules, you’ll be taken care of.<span>&nbsp; </span>And if you’re not, well, that’s your own damn fault.<span>&nbsp; </span>We’re under no obligation to help others.</div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;">Liberals/progressives/left-wing libertarians, however, say markets by themselves do not always deliver what people deserve.<span>&nbsp; </span>Markets ignore people’s relative starting position (Did they come from a rich or poor family?) and the role of sheer, dumb luck.<span>&nbsp; </span>For the world to be right and just, we must make attempts to account for these differences.<span>&nbsp; </span>Also, liberals/progressives/left-wing libertarians also assert that we have a moral duty to help the unfortunate and reduce unnecessary human suffering.</div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;">Now having made these broad distinctions, let me clarify why I label myself as a left-wing libertarian, rather than just using some of the other labels, like liberal and progressive.<span>&nbsp; </span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;">First of all, there are some members of the left-wing of politics that flat out condemn markets.<span>&nbsp; </span>I can’t do that.<span>&nbsp; </span>Markets have been incredibly successful in recent human history at creating a massive amount of wealth and innovations that have benefitted everyone.<span>&nbsp; </span>Also, I think that markets tap into some aspects of human nature, like competitiveness, that can be channeled into productive activity.<span>&nbsp; </span>And finally, let’s remember that markets are about choice – individual choice.<span>&nbsp; </span>That’s what freedom is supposed to be about.<span>&nbsp; </span>The problem with markets is that you have no individual choice if you lack resources.</div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;">My second reason for using the libertarian label builds on that last sentence there.<span>&nbsp; </span>I’m interested in people – all people – having the resources necessary to fully exercise their individual economic liberty. I’m not very interested in and am suspicious of state power.<span>&nbsp; </span>I don’t particularly want anyone telling me what to do, and yes, that includes government bureaucrats.<span>&nbsp; </span>Now, let me say that I’m not an opponent of regulation.<span>&nbsp; </span>I support it in many cases that I’ll lay out some other time.<span>&nbsp; </span>For now, I just want to make the point that the purpose of the state is to provide us all with the platform to exercise our individual liberty more fully, not curtail it.</div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;">There’s plenty more to be said, but let me wrap up with two more thoughts, seeing as this has become too long of a blog post.<span>&nbsp; </span>Yes, I’m describing myself as a left-wing libertarian, but I’ve used labels like liberal and progressive <a href="http://billpoorman.blogspot.com/2007/12/hell-yeah-im-liberal.html">in the past</a> and will do so quite happily in the future.<span>&nbsp; </span>That’s because these labels tend to broadly lay out one’s loyalties to left-side of the spectrum.<span>&nbsp; </span>I’m all for that.<span>&nbsp; </span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;">And finally, as some of you might already now, none of this is particularly new.<span>&nbsp; </span>Noam Chomsky <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-libertarianism">has described</a> himself as a left-wing libertarian. (More <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxPUvQZ3rcQ">here</a>.)<span>&nbsp; </span>Markos Moulitsas, founder of <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/">dailykos</a>, pretty much did the same in a <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/6/7/131550/7297">blog post</a> that caused a stir back in 2006.<span>&nbsp; </span>There’s an active <a href="http://praxeology.net/all-left.htm">online community</a> of left-wing libertarian thinkers.<span>&nbsp; </span>And more recently, a couple of researchers were <a href="http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/weigel/archive/2010/08/23/a-purge-at-the-cato-institute.aspx">tossed out</a> of the right-wing libertarian Cato Institute for advocating for a political alliance between liberals and libertarians that came to be dubbed <a href="http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=6800">liberaltarian</a>. </div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;">That’s all for now.<span>&nbsp; </span>I’ve gotten it off my chest.<span>&nbsp; </span>Now, over time on this blog, I hope to lay out perspectives and policies that I think support a left-wing libertarian vision of society, especially on the economic side, where most of the disagreement seems to be.<span>&nbsp; </span>In the meantime, have at it below.</div>
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		<title>I&#8217;m a secular humanist and a liberal, and I oppose abortion</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes you just have to get something off your chest.&nbsp; This is one of those posts.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve organized regular get-togethers of the liberal/progressive social group Drinking Liberally in the Peoria area for more than two-and-a-half years.&nbsp; (Online <a href="http://livingliberally.org/drinking/chapters/IL/peoria">here</a>, at <a href="http://www.meetup.com/drinkingliberallypeoria/">Meetup</a>, and <a href="http://www.facebook.com/#%21/group.php?gid=87285557399">Facebook</a>.)&nbsp; There&#8217;s always a healthy debate at our meetings What would you expect from a bunch of liberals and progressive drinking at an Irish-themed bar?&nbsp; But only a few issues have ever completely blown up one of gatherings, with people getting angry, walking out, etc.</p>
<p>Abortion is one of those issues.</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;m safe in saying that most Drinking Liberally-Peoria members are pro-choice, in every sense of politics and policy that that description has come to mean.&nbsp; But not everyone fits in that category, and certainly I don&#8217;t.&nbsp; I&#8217;ve argued my position a few times at Drinking Liberally meetings, and now I&#8217;ll set some of those down in writing.</p>
<p>I want to start first by re-printing a portion of an email exchange I had with a curious conservative earlier this year.&nbsp; All of what follows is my writing and not any of that person&#8217;s:<br />
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<div class="MsoPlainText">Abortion is a hard issue, obviously.&nbsp; I&#8217;m afraid I don’t line up on the commonly understood &#8220;liberal&#8221; axis with this one.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t exactly like this phrasing, but I call myself a &#8220;pro-life&#8221; liberal.&nbsp; Using that label suggests I have more in common with people who describe themselves that way than I do.&nbsp; Using that description at one of my Drinking Liberally meetings brought a bunch of shocked looks, but as is typical for all of us, the group respectfully let me explain my point of view.&nbsp; </div>
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<div class="MsoPlainText">I believe that everyone has the right to life and that a human life begins once the various chemicals of the sperm and egg combine to create the batch of cells that can &#8211; if everything goes right &#8211; become a human being.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </div>
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<div class="MsoPlainText">However&#8230;the world would be a much easier place if we only had one right or a clearly ranked set of rights, but unfortunately, that&#8217;s not so.&nbsp; Various rights and values compete all of the time.&nbsp; That&#8217;s why all of this is so hard.&nbsp; </div>
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<div class="MsoPlainText">One of those rights is the life of the already existing human being, the mother.&nbsp; If the pregnancy proceeds in a way that it threatens to kill the mother if brought to term, we have two separate rights to life competing.&nbsp; In that case, I believe the mother should have the right to a safe and legal abortion, if that&#8217;s what she chooses to do.</div>
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<div class="MsoPlainText">Another one of those rights is the right to liberty &#8211; the right to make our own choices about our lives, to live the life we pick and not the one forced upon us.&nbsp; That right to choice/liberty is taken away from a woman in cases of rape and incest.&nbsp; She did not pick that pregnancy, and it&#8217;s an ugly thing to have the state force a woman to have that child under those circumstances.&nbsp; That woman&#8217;s right to choose her life competes with the unborn child&#8217;s right to life.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s my place to decide how to balance those rights.&nbsp; I think that decision must remain with the woman, and she should be allowed to get a safe and legal abortion under those circumstances.</div>
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<div class="MsoPlainText">Where I draw the line is when abortion is chosen as a means of birth control.&nbsp; Often the opposite of the &#8220;pro-life&#8221; side is called &#8220;pro-choice&#8221;.&nbsp; Well, I believe the choice comes in when someone decides to have consensual sex.&nbsp; Once that choice is made, it&#8217;s hardly the unborn child&#8217;s fault that he or she came to be, so that&#8217;s no grounds for violating his or her right to life.</div>
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<div class="MsoPlainText">All of that just begins to scratch the surface of the argument.&nbsp; There are all kinds of objections and issues that I&#8217;m leaving out.&nbsp; I guess I&#8217;ll say a couple more things and then let it go for now:&nbsp; First, what I outlined above pretty much describes the mainstream of American public opinion on abortion.&nbsp; Most people want it legal and safe and left pretty much up to the mother.&nbsp; At the same time, people recoil from an unlimited right to an abortion.&nbsp; Second, I think a great way to avoid a lot of this would be to make birth control and adoption opportunities readily and widely available.&nbsp; Of course, like I said above, that puts me in opposition to many of the people who describe themselves as &#8220;pro-life&#8221;.</div>
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<div class="MsoPlainText">Let me say a few more things.</div>
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<div class="MsoPlainText">First, I&#8217;m highly critical of Bill Clinton, but he did have a good line, when he said that abortion should be <a href="http://www.notable-quotes.com/c/clinton_bill.html">safe, legal&#8230;and rare</a>.</div>
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<div class="MsoPlainText">Second, my views above would likely get me condemned by both of the extreme ends of this debate.&nbsp; There&#8217;s very little room for grey in public discourse on abortion.</div>
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<div class="MsoPlainText">Third, I think what distinguishes a &#8220;pro-life liberal&#8221; from a &#8220;pro-life conservative&#8221; is that a pro-life liberal actually care what happens to the kid once it&#8217;s out in the world, whereas a pro-life conservative seems to say, okay, great, it&#8217;s born, now it&#8217;s someone else&#8217;s problem.</div>
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<div class="MsoPlainText">And finally, yes, I&#8217;m a secular humanist.&nbsp; Just in case you&#8217;re curious, because I&#8217;m often asked, yes, I was raised a Catholic.&nbsp; But my position doesn&#8217;t have anything to do with that.&nbsp; Don&#8217;t prattle on to me about the soul, etc.&nbsp; No, my position is based in humanist values.&nbsp; To put it one easily recognizable way, we all, as human beings, have an inherent right to <a href="http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/">life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness</a>. And unless there are drastic, extenuating circumstances, we should respect those rights.</div>
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<div class="MsoPlainText">Now have at me.&nbsp; Or better yet, come to Drinking Liberally, and let&#8217;s talk in person.</p>
<p><u>Update</u>: &nbsp; Listen to<a href="http://www.pointofinquiry.org/jen_roth_atheist_against_abortion/"> this interview</a> with Jen Roth on the program Point of Inquiry.&nbsp; She&#8217;s a founder and member of a couple of different organizers working to advance this perspective.</div>
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		<title>So why doesn&#8217;t God get busy ending abortion already?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 16:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, a group has begun a 40-day vigil in the Peoria area to end abortion.&#160; The Peoria Journal Star has an article on the vigil here. To quote the article: &#8220;We&#8217;re praying to God to end abortion,&#8221; said Karen Guth, &#8230; <a href="http://www.billpoorman.com/2010/09/20/so-why-doesnt-god-get-busy-ending-abortion-already/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, a group has begun a 40-day vigil in the Peoria area to end abortion.&nbsp; The Peoria Journal Star has an article on the vigil <a href="http://www.pjstar.com/news/x1220565994/Anti-abortion-group-readies-vigil">here</a>.</p>
<p>To quote the article:<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;We&#8217;re praying to God to end abortion,&#8221; said Karen Guth, the national  group&#8217;s local director, at East Peoria&#8217;s Riverfront Park on Sunday  night. &#8220;And we&#8217;re looking to continue growing to accomplish that.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Okay, if God really, really hates abortion, why doesn&#8217;t it get busy ending it already?&nbsp; What good is praying about it going to do?&nbsp; Does God need to know that you really, really hate it, too, before it&#8217;ll do anything about it?</p>
<p>Certainly one of those times when I&#8217;d like to get into a conversation with one of these folks.&nbsp; Maybe I&#8217;ll try to get to one of their vigils.</p>
<p><u>Update</u>: &nbsp; I felt the time had come to lay out my view on abortion publicly, after having done so several times at meetings of <a href="http://livingliberally.org/drinking/chapters/IL/peoria">Drinking Liberally</a>.&nbsp; Look for those <a href="http://billpoorman.blogspot.com/2010/09/im-secular-humanist-and-liberal-and-i.html">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>The Daily Show&#8217;s &quot;Rally to Restore Sanity&quot; &#8211; a more critical take</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#8217;t mean to give too much weight to the Daily Show, but it is an influential liberal/progressive outlet.&#160; So, I want to write a bit more about the view of liberalism Jon Stewart lays out in his announcement of &#8230; <a href="http://www.billpoorman.com/2010/09/17/the-daily-shows-rally-to-restore-sanity-a-more-critical-take/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mean to give <a href="http://billpoorman.blogspot.com/2010/09/daily-show-and-colbert-report-nice.html">too much weight</a> to the Daily Show, but it is an influential liberal/progressive outlet.&nbsp; So, I want to write a bit more about the view of liberalism Jon Stewart lays out in his announcement of his Rally to Restore Sanity.</p>
<p>In his <a href="http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-september-16-2010/rally-to-restore-sanity">announcement clip</a>, he equally criticizes right- and left-wingers who liken their opponents to Hitler.&nbsp; Okay, I&#8217;m down with that.&nbsp; He also takes a couple of digs at the Tea Party types.&nbsp; Naturally I&#8217;m down with that.</p>
<p>But he also goes on to imply that somehow the <a href="http://www.911truth.org/">9/11 truther</a> movement is a left-wing cause.&nbsp; And he highlights the anti-war group <a href="http://www.codepink4peace.org/">Code Pink</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a false equivalence.</p>
<p>Currently none of the radical left-wing voices is <i>anywhere close </i>to the reins of power like the radicals on the right.&nbsp; In fact, the right-wing nut jobs are <a href="http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/15/the-morning-after-whose-party-is-it/">threatening </a>to take over the Republican party.&nbsp; No one can seriously argue that Democrats are about to repudiate war-making or start a huge investigation into 9/11 being an &#8220;inside job&#8221;.</p>
<p>Stewart is right that our political discourse is dominated by the loud, motivated 15-20% of people in the country.</p>
<p>But even if 70-80%, as he rightly points out, &#8220;have shit to do,&#8221; that doesn&#8217;t mean that they don&#8217;t reflect or care deeply about what&#8217;s going on their lives. They have real problems requiring real solutions, like finding and keeping a good job that will help them to pay for the modern essentials of life (food &amp; water, shelter, education, health care, transportation) for their entire lives.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s fair enough to criticize loud and clamoring activitsts, but sometimes you have to shout, especially when big things are at stake.&nbsp; I&#8217;m sure &#8220;Give me liberty or give me death!&#8221; sounded pretty extreme.&nbsp; Democracy was extreme at one time.&nbsp; Slavery was the norm.&nbsp; All change has come from the loud.&nbsp; But it matters gravely what  you&#8217;re being loud about!</p>
<p>For example, in Stewart&#8217;s announcement, a short clip takes a dig at Florida Congressman Alan Grayson, who <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-usmvYOPfco">said on the floor of the House</a> a year ago this month that the Republican plan for health care is basically &#8220;don&#8217;t get sick&#8221; and, if you do, &#8220;die quickly&#8221;.&nbsp; Now, of course, most Republicans and conservatives don&#8217;t <i>really </i>want people to die.&nbsp; But they also don&#8217;t view it as a social responsibility &#8211; a collective (gasp!) responsibility &#8211; to see that sick people get medical care.&nbsp; If, in the end, you don&#8217;t have the resources for medical care, then it&#8217;s your own damn fault.&nbsp; That <i>is</i> the current Republican/conservative line.&nbsp; It&#8217;s worth being loud and obnoxious about such a worldview when there are, yes, &#8220;reasonable&#8221; alternatives.&nbsp; (Of course, Republicans/conservatives want people to rely on charitable medical care, but where&#8217;s the evidence that charity would fill the gap?&nbsp; And regarding emergency rooms, let&#8217;s remember that ERs only take everybody because of a <i>federal mandate</i>, signed by <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marilyn-barrett/the-us-universal-health-c_b_171010.html"><i>Ronald Reagan</i></a>!)</p>
<p>Liberals cannot just sit back, stroke their chins, count on reasonable argument, and expect the 70-80% to come along with them.&nbsp; No.&nbsp; What is reasonable changes over time, largely based on what the loud and motivated are shouting about, the story they tell, and the values they celebrate.&nbsp; We have to be willing to define &#8220;reasonable&#8221;.&nbsp; And we can&#8217;t shy away from taking back <a href="http://billpoorman.blogspot.com/2010/09/no-tea-partiers-you-dont-get-to-own.html">important</a>, <a href="http://billpoorman.blogspot.com/2010/05/freedom-freedom-and-more-freedom.html">resonant </a>American words and ideas. People have to know what you&#8217;re willing to fight for.</p>
<p>I agree with Stewart that fear is the enemy of reason.&nbsp; That&#8217;s what makes the &#8220;duel&#8221; between Stewart and Colbert so fun.&nbsp; But simply appealing to the 70-80-percenters, without first articulating and defending the liberal and progressive worldview in the strongest, yet still reasonable, language possible, will never succeed.&nbsp; Liberals have been trying that for my entire adult life with precious little to show for it.</p>
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		<title>Daily Show and Colbert Report nice enough to give me an anniversary present</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Beckapalooza wasn&#8217;t for you, the Daily Show and the Colbert Report have planned dueling rallies in Washington, D.C., for October 30th &#8211; the &#8220;Rally to Restore Sanity&#8221; (Daily Show) and &#8220;Keep Fear Alive&#8221;&#160; (Colbert). As part of his announcement, &#8230; <a href="http://www.billpoorman.com/2010/09/17/daily-show-and-colbert-report-nice-enough-to-give-me-an-anniversary-present/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If <a href="http://www.glennbeck.com/828/">Beckapalooza </a>wasn&#8217;t for you, the Daily Show and the Colbert Report have planned <a href="http://www.indecisionforever.com/2010/09/16/breaking-jon-stewart-and-stephen-colbert-to-host-opposing-rallies-in-washington-d-c/?xrs=share_copy">dueling rallies</a> in Washington, D.C., for October 30th &#8211; the &#8220;Rally to Restore Sanity&#8221; (Daily Show) and &#8220;Keep Fear Alive&#8221;&nbsp; (Colbert).</p>
<p>As part of his announcement, Jon Stewart laid out the compelling reasons for scheduling the rally on 10/30:&nbsp; the show will be there the week before anyway; Sunday is Halloween, and they like to see their kids on that day; so basically Saturday was the time to do it.</p>
<p>But he failed to mention that it&#8217;s also my wedding anniversary!&nbsp; That must be the real reason, although of course, they&#8217;ll argue that it&#8217;s all a big <a href="http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/joan_walsh/politics/2010/08/25/beck_has_a_scheme">coincidence</a>.</p>
<p>Sadly, I probably won&#8217;t be able to make it to the rallies.&nbsp; I mean, it is my anniversary, of course.&nbsp; And we&#8217;d have to line up a sitter.&nbsp; And Halloween&#8217;s the next day, and that&#8217;d be unfair to the kids.&nbsp; And it&#8217;s in D.C., which is a long way and a lot of money.</p>
<p>Some liberal I am&#8230;well, more like that 70-80 percenter&#8230;&nbsp; Watch the full clip below to understand what I mean:</p>
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		<title>Conservative core assumptions</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 17:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve discovered a new podcast called <a href="http://www.bestoftheleftpodcast.com/">Best of the Left</a>.&nbsp; It&#8217;s a digest of many of the major liberal-progressive radio, TV, and podcast programs.&nbsp; I find I&#8217;ve heard many of the segments before, but in a recent podcast, he pulled out some &#8220;vintage&#8221; Bill Moyers from soon after the Citizen&#8217;s United case was decided.</p>
<p>Moyers lays out how some Congressmembers were already trying to counter the decision, especially: <br />
<blockquote>its core assumptions, that money is speech and corporations have the same rights as people when it comes to spending it. </p></blockquote>
<p>That one line helps clarify for me two major differences between liberals and conservatives.</p>
<p>Watch the <a href="http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/02052010/watch.html">full segment</a>.</p>
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